Monday, 31 October 2005

Jono's Haka

In the middle of the Gathering we had an International Dance Night. It was tremendous fun - a chance to watch/take part in all kinds of dancing. One of the early acts introduced himself by saying, "This dance was made famous by our national rugby team" . . .
Jonothan's Haka (Sat night).AVI

Anna D: Oh Leith, I'm sitting here with tears rolling down my face and I'm not sure if it's from laughing at Aidan or just missing everyone! Thank you!!!! (11/04/05)

Sebastian: Loved that video, i think it's the first video i've seen from wgyf, I couldn't stop laughing watching it. (02/27/06)

Quaker Queeries and a nice quote . . .

Hi everyone,

Just thought I'd share this quote with you.

At the world gathering I stumbled into the 'Quaker Queeries' meeting . . . for gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transexual Friends. I was touched and impressed at the way these amazing young friends discussed ways of making their presence felt in the wider gathering without offending/hurting any of the other participants. I was also a little shocked to hear some of the things they were having to cope with . . . one had tentatively mentioned homosexuality in her basegroup, only to be told by another Friend that it was immoral and a sin according to the bible. I also found it was a place where I finally started to see some of the diversity at the gathering (the formal presentations were overwhelmingly, and sometimes crushingly, Christocentric and evangelical). I made a bunch of lovely friends there, and joined the email list that was set up. One of the posts to that list included the following quote, which comes from the 'Freedom Friends' website.

Freedom Friends is an unaffiliated, programmed (American I think) Quaker Church that is open and affirming of all people (including and especially GLBTQ).

http://freedomfriends.org/index.htm

"Is it Possible that you might be a Quaker and not know it?"

You might be a Quaker if…

You think listening is at least as important as talking. You think justice means more than just locking up criminals. You are more interested in being like Christ than in being like most Christians. You want to read the Bible but you don't want to be beaten with it. You think the contents of a person's heart is more important than the contents of their house. You are more worried about the Hell that people live in here and now than any Hell they might occupy after death. You think war makes more problems than it solves. You suspect than nobody was ever saved by a ritual. You think mandatory creeds and dogma fit like a strait-jacket. You think the best ministers are often found sitting in the pews. You think investing great leaders with great power is dangerous. You think equality is not so much a goal to be sought, but a fact that is often ignored. You think honesty is not just the best policy, but that it ought to be the only policy. You think that church business should not look like "business as usual". You think that good relationships are more important than good arguments.

Not all of this is 100% a fit with me, but I like the general gist, and love some of the points made. Just thought it might be a good example of what I got out of the Gathering

:0)

"Let us then try what love will do"

Anna D: Freedom Friends are definitely in the States - great quote, thanks for sharing it... it'll come in handy :0) I'm really hoping you'll make it down to help us feed back, both Fran and I missed all the workshops and you're heaps better at putting it all into words than I am anyway. Hopefully Jonathan can keep that side up! I keep reading stuff here, and on teh email lists, and wishing I had the ability to express it all so succinctly and clearly, maybe I just haven't got far enough through processing it all yet. But also maybe I missed out on more than I thought I had. My main challenges were internal, in my head/heart/soul, triggered by ministry within worship or from the speaker sessions I got to, not from face to face interactions. I think I got protected from the face to face stuff a lot which is probably just as well realistically in that I had a job to do, but kinda sad now looking back. However I have to remember that that isn't why I was there and be grateful for those like you who are able to share their experiences so well. love & light Anna xxx (11/06/05)

Wednesday, 26 October 2005

Lunch on Pendle Hill

Jason sent me this photo of the YFs gathered on Pendle Hill. I didn't actually go on this trip, but I thought you might like to see it anyway because some people at the Gathering felt that it was a really special occurance. I gather that George Fox speaks, in his diaries, of the experience he had on climbing Pendle Hill (pretty much immediately before Quakerism-as-we-know-it sprang into being). He had a vision of a great people gathered together, and the trip up Pendle Hill was supposed to complete that vision.

Those of you who like fantasy books might be wondering, like me, about prophesies and where they lead . . .

Jason at Fir Bank Fell


Thursday, 20 October 2005

What I learnt at the WGYF

What I Learnt at the World Gathering of Young Friends

There are a lot of Quakers in the world! They range from evangelical to atheist to universalist, Christian to anti-Christian, programmed to unprogrammed. Some don’t like the term ‘Quakers’, some belong to churches, some are prophets or mystics or ministers. Young Friends are diverse . . . and there is no common element that binds us together. We don’t fall on a continuum, or even a series of continuums - it’s much more complicated than that!

At the Gathering, participants spoke in different languages. But even within a single language, they spoke with different words. Many people believe that underlying these different forms of expression is a common experience; an essential ‘sameness’. Ideas of this sort were voiced a number of times, especially at the start of the Gathering. This often stemmed from a desire for togetherness and unity in a group that came from different realities. I was touched by the commitment to come together,

(Anon): I was just thinking about the idea of having exchanges with other countries. While, the idea of enrichment sounds great (riches are always nice) I know that I would find it rather hard to embrace the viewpoints of an evangelical Quaker... I mean, i'd try, but... like attracts like, y'know? I'm ultimately think i'm rather happy with our semi-isolated style of Quakerism and don't like the idea that we may not have the right idea. nice blog btw - food for thought. if i'd gone we could have heckled :P. (10/25/05)

Thomas: I was just thinking about the idea of having exchanges with other countries. While, the idea of enrichment sounds great (riches are always nice) I know that I would find it rather hard to embrace the viewpoints of an evangelical Quaker... I mean, i'd try, but... like attracts like, y'know? I'm ultimately think i'm rather happy with our semi-isolated style of Quakerism and don't like the idea that we may not have the right idea. nice blog btw - food for thought. if i'd gone we could have heckled :P. (10/25/05)

thomas: ...sorry... this interweb is confuzlling... haha. (10/25/05)

Leith: Thomas - you rock! The first comment to my blog . . . wow :0) May there be many more (and each more wonderful than the last . . . !) (10/26/05)

Leith: Oh . . . and on a more serious note . . . it's a really good point. To be honest, in my heart of hearts I'm pretty attached to my idea of Quakerism . . .

. . . and it would be kind of a pity if the uniqueness of NZ Friend-ly-ness got squashed because it is a minority . . . so maybe it's good to be a little isolated. Great comment . . . I'm gonna think some more . . . (10/26/05)

Leith: I'm really sorry guys, but part of my report seems to have been eaten by the blog editor! I will re-post my report above so that it is still available to read . . . so have a look elsewhere on the blog if you want to know how it ends :0) (11/02/05)

ria: hey leithy, ill comment but im afraid i cant think of anything provoking to say.. (= i guess iv heard this all before in person already so it isnt inspiring anything new.. ul just hav to post some more controversial things and ill wait till i read something i disagree with or that moves me to speak.. at least thomas and julian are holding up the side - interesting comments guys (= luv, ria. (11/05/05)